Showing posts with label Indyref2. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Indyref2. Show all posts

Sunday, 3 January 2021

Can Nicola Sturgeon finally deliver an independence referendum in 2021?

 There is only one question that matters in Scottish politics in 2021: will there be a firm date for indyref2? And yes, I said something very similar last year, and indeed the year before that. The non-appearance of the independence referendum has been the great shaggy dog story of the last five years, since Nicola Sturgeon first started promising it.

3 January 2021


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By Iain MacwhirterPolitical Editor

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After the Brexit referendum “changed material circumstances” and, in Nicola Sturgeon’s view, rendered the 2014 independence referendum null and void, we’ve had a series of forecasts of a rerun. “I am determined,” she told the SNP conference in October 2016, “that Scotland will have the ability to reconsider the question of independence and do so before the UK leaves the EU.” She then published a new Independence Referendum Bill.

In March 2017, the day before Article 50 on leaving the EU was passed by Parliament, the First Minister formally requested the consent of Westminster to hold a referendum on Scottish independence. Theresa May said: “now is not the time.” The SNP lost a third of its seats in the 2017 snap election that followed.

Undaunted, she unveiled a “reset timetable” for indyref 2 which was now scheduled for the autumn of 2018. When that didn’t happen she moved the dial to the autumn of 2019, but before that date the SNP switched to supporting a People’s Vote for Brexit instead of indyref2. That didn’t happen either. Indeed, the People’s Vote turned into a Tory General Election landslide of December 2019. A triumphant Boris Johnson announced that he was now Minister for the Union and would reject a Scottish independence referendum for “a generation”.

Sturgeon’s latest forecast is for a referendum in the first half of the new Scottish parliamentary cycle – meaning sometime around 2023. You might think that after all these false dawns, independence supporters would have lost hope – but not a bit of it. After every deadline has been missed, support for independence has eventually ticked up.

More voters than ever appear to have been convinced that Scotland should be an independent country. Some 13 polls have shown a majority for Yes, reaching a peak of 58 per cent in a Savanta ComRes poll in mid-December.

Of course, that poll excluded don’t knows, and all recent polls have been conducted under the shadow of Brexit and latterly the pandemic. It is difficult to know just how much of this is actual support for independence and how much is down to loathing of Boris Johnson and Brexit. However, any objective assessment of the polling evidence would have to conclude that independence is gradually becoming the settled will of the Scottish electorate.

This doesn’t mean a referendum is in the bag or even that it will certainly take place. Personally, I think the odds of a legally-binding referendum being held in the next decade are fairly remote. This is because the Conservatives now have a very solid majority in Westminster, despite losing a raft of Scottish MPs in 2019.

Boris Johnson is triumphant after his Brexit deal and will argue that there is no justification for holding a “divisive” referendum to break up Britain at the very moment the UK is going through the complex process of rebuilding after the twin shocks of Covid and Brexit.

The Labour leader, Sir Keir Starmer, is also of this view. He is promising further devolution instead of a referendum and has enlisted one of the stars of the 2014 Better Together campaign, the former PM Gordon Brown, to front it. That is the surest sign that, unlike Jeremy Corbyn, Starmer is not prepared to flirt with independence.

So, even if the SNP win the expected landslide in the May Scottish elections, the prospect of Westminster agreeing a legally binding referendum on Scottish independence is remote.

Nor will there be much enthusiasm in Brussels for Scottish secession, now that a Brexit deal is in place. Those politicians in the European Parliament who had been saying they’d changed their minds about Scottish independence were mostly playing a tactical game to discredit Brexit. Countries like France and Spain are as resolutely opposed to “separatism” as ever, and are not going to allow Brussels to get involved in the internal politics of a country no longer in the European Union.

Nicola Sturgeon has always said that the independence referendum has to be “beyond legal challenge” – in other words, expressly authorised by Westminster through a Section 30 Order.

She is not interested in declaring UDI after a General Election victory or staging a wildcat referendum of the kind held by Catalonia in 2017. That led to the incarceration of many of the referendum organisers and the self-exile of the Catalan president, Carles Puigdemont.

The First Minister is the queen of caution. But that doesn’t mean she’ll do nothing. Her personal popularity has never been higher following her handling of the pandemic, and the SNP has a commanding lead in the opinion polls. The FM is fully aware of just how difficult it is to win an absolute majority in a proportional parliament.

But she will probably secure the support of the Greens at Holyrood for a referendum.

So what happens then? Joanna Cherry MP, one of the stars of the anti-Brexit court actions, hopes that she will take on the Westminster Government in the Supreme Court, if Boris refuses to accept the Scottish Government’s “mandate” for a referendum.

It is clear, under the UK constitution, that Holyrood has no power to hold a legally binding referendum on independence, but that doesn’t mean it can’t hold a consultative or advisory ballot asking the Scottish people what they want.

There is a chance that the courts would agree that Holyrood has the power to hold a nationwide opinion poll.

But would that make any difference? The Scottish Conservative leader, Douglas Ross, is promising to boycott any such advisory referendum and is calling on Unionists not to participate in it. Even some supporters of independence might think that now is just the wrong time to be holding a divisive referendum. It could lead to a repeat of the Catalan situation in 2017 when their referendum was condemned as unrepresentative because unionist voters refused to vote.

Nationalists might say: a vote’s a vote and if people don’t take the opportunity of expressing a view they can’t complain about the result.

But it is not Holyrood they need to convince but Westminster. Boris Johnson would use a half-baked referendum result to rule out a referendum even more emphatically than before, and Keir Starmer would back him.

We are in a strange limbo, therefore. There is no obvious reason to expect a Scottish referendum in the near future and yet almost everyone does. There is no politically plausible route. However, politics is very fluid right now. We live in turbulent times.

Support is clearly rising and it may be that a mass movement of Scottish opinion exerts moral pressure on the Westminster establishment to change its mind. But in the meantime, it’s business as usual. Scotland will just have to fake it till she makes it.


https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18982823.can-nicola-sturgeon-finally-deliver-independence-referendum-2021/

Monday, 2 March 2020

Sturgeon independence plot exposed? How SNP 'hardly lifted finger' to stop Brexit

NICOLA STURGEON firmly believes an independent Scotland would thrive as a member of the EU and has repeatedly criticised the Brexit process, pointing out that a majority of the Scottish people voted Remain - but, during the 2016 referendum campaign, the SNP were accused of "barely lifting a finger" to prevent the Brexit vote, unearthed reports reveal.

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First Minister Nicola Sturgeon (Image: GETTY)

Ms Sturgeon is determined to hold a second referendum on Scottish independence in 2020, even if Prime Minister Boris Johnson is repeatedly rejecting her demands. Her calls have grown louder after Britain’s departure from the EU on January 31, as the SNP leader believes Brexit has happened against the will of the Scottish people. Scotland voted by a margin of 55 percent to 45 percent in 2014 to remain part of Britain, and a year later voted by a margin of 62 percent to 38 percent to remain in the EU.

Speaking on the Andrew Marr Show at the end of February, the SNP leader urged independence supporters to "be patient", but said it was essential to push for Indyref2 as the UK negotiates its "future relationship with Europe".
She also noted she was not against "testing the limit of the power of the Scottish Parliament" in court, but claimed she was not "actively looking at" trying to hold an unofficial referendum in the near future, like that of Catalonia in 2017.
As the future of the Union appears uncertain, a 2016 report by The Telegraph sheds light on claims that, despite Ms Sturgeon claiming Brexit justifies a second independence vote, the SNP “barely lifted a finger” to prevent it during the EU referendum campaign.
Official figures released by the Electoral Commission showed the nationalists spent just £90,830 fighting to keep the UK in the EU – even though their upper limit was £700,000 and had buoyant finances following a surge in party members.
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Sturgeon independence plot exposed: How pro-EU SNP 'hardly lifted finger' to stop Brexit (Image: GETTY)
"But the party’s pitiful investment in the campaign tells another story completely.
“The SNP is not a poor organisation, yet it treated the EU referendum like it was a council by-election.”
Willie Rennie, the Scottish Liberal Democrat leader, added: “They hardly lifted a finger during the referendum.
"The SNP can redeem their lacklustre EU campaign by backing our fight to keep the UK within the EU.”
The Electoral Commission figures showed the SNP spent £64,105 on leaflets and £26,725 on advertising.
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Scottish Tory MSP Murdo Fraser (Image: GETTY)
The largest single item of expenditure was just over £23,000 on 1.75 million copies of a leaflet titled "You and Your Family Are Better Off in Europe".
In contrast, the party spent £1.3million in the 2014 Scottish independence referendum campaign.
Among the organisations that spent more than the SNP fighting for a Remain vote were the trade unions Unite (£140,173), the GMB (£96,430) and the shop workers’ union USDAW (£104,190).

Wednesday, 22 January 2020

Sturgeon's independence dreams would 'spark economic meltdown as thousands made redundant'

NICOLA STURGEON's Scottish independence dream would need thousands of Scottish workers to lose their jobs in order to pay for compliance with the fiscal rules of the euro, according to George Galloway.


Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has repeatedly called for Boris Johnson to grant Scotland the power to hold another referendum on independence from the United Kingdom. Scotland previously had a referendum in 2014 where the country voted to remain part of the UK but following last month's general election, where the SNP won 48 seats, Ms Sturgeon has continuously called for Indyref2. However, Mr Galloway questioned whether Scotland could join the EU during an interview with Express.co.uk
Mr Galloway said: "Scotland is currently running a deficit three times the permitted limit under the fiscal rules of the European Union.
"Which means that two thirds of Scotland’s deficit would have to be eliminated.
"Which could only be done by gigantic cuts in public services and massive redundancies.
"100,000s of workers would have to lose their jobs to pay for compliance with the fiscal rules of the euro."
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George Galloway is a former Labour MP (Image: Express)
Last month Mr Galloway brilliantly outlined exactly what Scotland risks losing by leaving the United Kingdom.
Mr Galloway said: "If you want to be independent why would you leave a Union in which you have a considerable say to join a Union in which you will be tiny dot on the map.
"Why would you leave a Union with whom you have more than 300 years of common experience, a common language and a gigantic market for your goods and services?
"Absolute free movement between your country and England, why would you do that in order to hook up with Slovakia, Slovenia, Romania, Bulgaria and the rest?
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An opinion poll on indyref2 (Image: Express)
"With which you have absolutely nothing in common, either historically, culturally linguistically or economically.
"Why would you leave a country where you have a single currency and apply to join the Euro which operates in the interest of the very central places?"
Earlier in the interview with Express.co.uk Mr Galloway attacked the BBC and their "intolerable" TV licence practice.
He said: “It is completely intolerable that in 2020, in the 21st century, in an entirely new media landscape, the population of Britain are held hostage by a poll tax that they must pay to the BBC on pain of literal imprisonment.

Tuesday, 21 January 2020

Nicola Sturgeon's independence dreams CRUSHED as Gordon Brown warns 'no case' for 2nd vote

NICOLA STURGEON’s plans to hold a second Scottish independence referendum next year have not only been scuppered by Boris Johnson, but rubbished by former Prime Minister Gordon Brown as well, who told Sky News there was “no case” for having one then.

Former prime minister Gordon Brown savagely dismantled Nicola Sturgeon’s arguments for holding a second Scottish independence referendum next year. The SNP leader has been calling for this following her party’s general election victory. Mr Brown told Sky News the First Minister’s criteria for holding a second independence referendum had not been met and all her arguments had “fallen”.

He said: “There’s no case for having a referendum at that time.
“There’s no case because the two arguments she put forward for a referendum have not been met.
“One was that we had completed and knew what the relationship with Europe was going to be.
“We don’t know, we know we’re leaving but we don’t know what the future relationship is.”
The former Labour leader continued: “Now by the time her timetable is out of date, we will still not have had an agreement on what the future relationship with Europe is, so that argument has fallen.
“She then said that she would have a referendum if she would have a consistent majority of support in Scotland for independence.
“There is no such majority in Scotland at the moment that’s either been consistent or decisive or overwhelming.
“In fact there is no consensus on it and it’s a divided Scotland on these issues.”
Mr Brown added: “So the point I think I would make is her two criterion have not been met.
“But anyway, she said, as Boris Johnson reminded us, that this was a once in a generation event.
“Clearly five years after the last referendum is not a generation having passed.”
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SCOTLAND SURVEY (Image: EXPRESS)
Ms Sturgeon was already dealt a blow when Boris Johnson formally rejected a call for a second independence referendum.
The Prime Minister said a referendum would "continue the political stagnation Scotland has seen for the past decade".
He cited the First Minister’s previous pledge that the 2014 referendum would be a "once in a generation" vote.
Ms Sturgeon tweeted that the Tories were attempting to "deny democracy".
In her election victory speech, the SNP leader said a rejection from Mr Johnson would “drive a coach and horses through the very idea that is supposed to underpin the UK”.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1231053/nicola-sturgeon-snp-gordon-brown-labour-scotland-indyref2-scottish-independence

Monday, 20 January 2020

Nicola Sturgeon warned SNP's independence bid could trigger Greece-style economic collapse

NICOLA STURGEON would put the Scottish economy at risk by leaving the UK and rejoining the EU as, according to one of Britain's foremost constitutional experts, the country could see a Greece-style collapse.

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How Sturgeon's independence bid could turn Scotland into Greece, says expert (Image: GETTY)
Last week, Boris Johnson rejected Nicola Sturgeon’s call to hold another Scottish independence referendum in the wake of Brexit. In response, the First Minister accused the former Mayor of London of being a “democracy denier” and said she will set out her government's "next steps" before the end of January. A spokesperson for Ms Sturgeon said: "The rejection by the UK government of the people of Scotland's right to choose is further demonstration of the need for Scotland's future to be put in Scotland's hands.
"We are keeping our options open on how to respond to the UK government's refusal to accept our mandate, endorsed by the Scottish Parliament, and will provide an update in due course."
As a constitutional stand-off now seems more inevitable than ever, one of Britain’s foremost constitutional experts, Vernon Bogdanor, told Express.co.uk why the SNP’s attempt to use Brexit to manufacture support for independence might not be successful.
He said: "One third of SNP voters supported Brexit.
"It is always dangerous for a nationalist movement as, instead of having one issue, they have two.
"They are cross-cutting."
Moreover, Mr Bogdanor also explained how Ms Sturgeon's independence call could turn Scotland into Greece – Europe's most struggling economy.
He explained: "Scotland would have two big problems.
"First, it would mean fishing would return to Brussels.
"The Scots may not want that.
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Professor Vernon Bogdanor (Image: GESHAM COLLEGE)
"The second problem is: what currency would Scotland use in the EU?
"Membership might require them to join the euro like new members.
"But that would mean bringing the deficit down from seven to three percent, which is a huge amount.
"If they use the pound, then they would have the same problem of Greece.
"They have fiscal independence but their monetary policies depend on another country.
"And if they have their own currency, they would have to have huge interest rates to stop money flowing out.
"There are very serious problems – much worse than Brexit."
Mr Bogdanor is not the only one who believes the SNP are in for a “rocky” time.
Former Labour MP George Galloway told Express.co.uk about the next Scottish parliamentary elections: “Just as with the British election result, you have to keep these things in proper perspective.
“The SNP has a huge number of parliamentary seats.
“But, for example, more people voted for Brexit in Scotland than voted for the SNP.
“Secondly, they have a huge haul of seats, but less than 50 percent of the Scottish population voted for them.”
He added: “It’s going to be a difficult year for the SNP. They’re not going to be as strong at the end of 2020 as they were at the end of 2019.”

Nicola Sturgeon’s SNP spent outrageous sum of taxpayers' money for failed Brexit case

NICOLA STURGEON’S SNP spent an outrageous sum of taxpayers’ money for a failed Brexit court case, unearthed reports reveal.


Scotland’s superior deficit performance came to an end 30 years ago and for the past ten years the picture has been one of significant deteriorations relative to the rest of the UK. According to the Government Expenditure and Revenue in Scotland (GERS), in 2018-19, the country ran a budget deficit of 7 percent of gross domestic product, compared with 1.1 percent for the whole of the UK. Scotland’s revenue per head, even including a geographic share of North Sea revenues, was £11,531, compared with £11,838 for the whole of the UK.
Moreover, Scotland’s public expenditure per head is significantly higher than the whole of the UK – £13,854 versus £12,193.
Despite the country’s weak economic performance, First Minister Nicola Sturgeon is not only ramping up her calls for a second independence referendum but it also appears that her party spent an “outrageous” sum of taxpayers’ money for a failed Brexit court case.
n 2018, the SNP argued that the UK Withdrawal Bill put forward by Theresa May undermined the founding principles of devolution and diluted the powers of the Scottish Parliament.
Nicola Sturgeon’s ministers claimed that some EU powers – like support for farmers, control of our seas or food standards – fell within areas that are Holyrood's responsibility.
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Nicola Sturgeon’s SNP spent outrageous sum of taxpayers' money for failed Brexit case (Image: GETTY)
Nicola Sturgeon warning: Why SNP could be heading for catastrophic election defeat
First Minister Nicola Sturgeon (Image: GETTY)
Amid failing negotiations between the Scottish government and the UK government, the SNP introduced the EU Continuity Bill.
However, it was later referred to the Supreme Court by UK ministers, who claimed Holyrood acted outside its remit by passing the Bill.
It was the first time in the history of devolution that Westminster challenged legislation passed by Holyrood in the country's highest court.
According to a 2019 report by the Scottish Sun, SNP Ministers spent £132,000 for the court case, which in January last year, ruled against them.
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The Supreme Court (Image: GETTY)
Nicola Sturgeon warning: Why SNP could be heading for catastrophic election defeat
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The Scottish Government’s expenses to the Supreme Court from January were buried in a long-delayed spending paper released in October.
The document listed a payment of £119,389 for the Continuity Bill showdown with Westminster over the return of more than 100 devolved powers post-Brexit.
However, the final figure was actually £12,000 higher, it emerged.
Conservative MSP Adam Tomkins furiously condemned the hefty bill, saying: “No wonder the SNP government has kept this quiet.
"The SNP has spent another outrageous sum of taxpayers’ money promoting its own nationalist agenda through the courts.
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Conservative MSP Adam Tomkins (Image: GETTY)
“There was never any need for this bill but the SNP will take any opportunity to pursue separation, regardless of the cost to the people of Scotland.”
The Scottish Government said in a statement the legal bill included lawyers’ fees of £131,316.60, £160 court costs and £423 on admin.
However, the figure did not include the Lord Advocate’s expenses or internal legal advice from government briefs.